How many X-Wings were sent out and lost in the final battle in “The Force Awakens?”

2018-04-02 19:40:04

I’ve seen the film once, but my impression of this last battle from the X-Wing perspective was this:

We are shown about 12 (?) X-Wings arriving at the target location and going in for the attack.

Then, the story switches mainly shows ground events which would seem to happen while X-Wings and TIE fighters battle the whole time. During the scenes where we see that battle, it seems like X-Wing losses are pretty frequent - maybe one per ten seconds.

The ground events include hiking a fairly long distance through forest and a wide open field, sneaking around a base and fighting, taking and disposing of a prisoner, trying to connect with a confused adolescent child, planting lots of explosives, hiking back across the open field and through woods, and having a fairly long set of fights. Seems like that probably would have taken at least 45 minutes.

In stark contrast to the space battle in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, where pretty much every X-Wing loss is shown or heard

  • Three squadrons are mentioned in the film, Red, Blue and Black. I could not count all the X-Wings prior to the attack on Starkiller

    The Squadron size for X-wings as depicted at the Battle of Yavin in A New Hope is 11 (22 X Wings spaced over 2 X wing squadrons).

    The EU size, and size of most WWII squadrons (baring in mind the space combat drew heavily on WWII fighter dogfighting) of 12 could still be correct if one or both squadrons were understrength, the fact that newcomer Luke slotted straight in would suggest that the rebellion had the fighters but not necessarily the pilots to fly them (similar to the Battle of Britain in WWII).

    Assuming the 3 squadrons attacking starkiller base were at full strength and the loses at Takodana were replenished This gives us a range of between:

    33 - assuming the figures from A New Hope as full strength


    36 - using EU, and real world WWII squadron sizes and assuming that the squadrons were understrength at Yavin

    I counted 7 X-Wings returnin

    2018-04-02 20:11:53
  • Saw this again today and counted it.

    12 xwings are shown coming out of lightspeed and engaging starkiller (poe's black x-wing is in the lead). During the fight, the resistance HQ says they lost half their fleet which implies 6 down, but up to this point we only see 3 or 4 shotdown.

    After that point, we see at least 1 more die (the english speaking alien pilot one during the final trench run)

    But, in the final shots, 7 xwings are seen surviving and leaving for home.

    2018-04-02 20:32:59
  • I counted 11 x-wings when they showed Poe's Black Squadron when they first inter the atmosphere. So with 3 squads that would be about 33-35 total. I doubt they would be under strength squads because the resistance would send every available x-wing they had to attack star killer base.

    Also I counted 12 x-wings flying into the trench to bomb the oscillator a few movies time minutes after the control base said they lost half their fleet. So 33-35 x-wings sounds correct.

    2018-04-02 21:04:35
  • So I've seen many people saying that black squadron was at the battle... Black squadron was A squadron of handpicked pilots that was mostly destroyed... And all the pilots in black squadron were in other squadrons aswell..

    So here are.all the named.pilots.

    . Poe dameron

    . Jess pava

    . Ello asty

    . Yolo ziff

    . Nien nunb

    . Bastian

    . Snap wexley

    . Niv lek

    . Furillo

    And there were other pilots.

    Given that in the last Jedi there were a couple of blue squadron still left and the remaining survivors of starkiller base attack were sent on other missions that means probably only half of blue squadron attacked starkiller... So in an estimated guess I would say 18 pilots attacked starkiller base and only 7 returned as Vober sand says that's half our fleet and then ello asty dies

    2018-04-02 21:29:50